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Homosexuality: It’s about survival – not sex | James O’Keefe | TEDxTallaght

Translator: Leonardo Silva
Reviewer: Mile Živković One summer evening, my eighteen-year-old son Jimmy
said he wanted to talk. So, after my wife Joan and I got his three
much younger siblings tucked in and read their bedtime stories, Joan and I sat down in our bedroom. Jimmy came in and closed
the door behind him. And he sat down on a chair across
from the bed where we were sitting, and says, “Mom and Dad,
I have something important to tell you, and it’s not a problem, it’s not
a bad thing, it’s just different.” We said, “Okay.” And he looked at us in earnest,
and he said, “I’m gay.” So, after a few seconds
of deafening silence, Joan takes a deep breath and says,
“Jimmy, we will love whoever you love.” That was about 12 years ago
when he came out to us, and I’ll have to admit that, at the time, Joan and I did think
this could be a problem, for his safety, even. And as his father, I had this feeling
that, somehow, I had failed him, and maybe, because of that, he wouldn’t
have a chance to have kids of his own. So, I’m a cardiologist, and I like to imagine the world through
the eyes of a hunter-gatherer ancestor for clues about how to thrive
in the modern world, but, viewed in the light of evolution, homosexuality seems to be a real
self-defeating non-productive strategy. I mean, gays have 80% fewer kids
than heterosexuals. This is a trait that ought to go extinct
in a few generations, but down through recorded history, in every culture,
and many animal species as well, homosexuality’s been a small,
but distinct subgroup. If this were a genetic error, natural selection should have long ago
called this from the gene pool. So, while I was pondering this, this paradox about the natural
origins of homosexuality, our babies grew up. Jimmy has three younger
siblings who adore him. He has this magnetism
and this charming wit that helps them feel happy and relaxed. And one day, while contemplating
this “Jimmy effect,” it suddenly dawned on me:
homosexuality is not so much about sex; it’s really more about survival,
the family’s survival. So us, Homo sapiens, we are among
the most social species on Earth. For us, it’s not just a kill-or-be-killed
struggle for existence. It’s a snuggle for existence, you know. An ability to love our family
and bond with our group determines, in many cases,
whether we survive or perish. So it’s the survival
of the fittest family, not the fittest individual. So, you share 50% of your DNA
with your siblings. Your nieces and nephews
share 25% of your DNA. Frоm evolution’s perspective, you have the same genetic success
if you raise one child on your own or you enable a sibling
to raise two children. Frоm evolution’s perspective, this is all about
cooperation and altruism. Homosexuality is
genetically-programmed altruism. Gays are designed by nature
to help us be kind to one another, like Ellen DeGeneres says. (Laughter) So, E. O. Wilson, probably the greatest evolutionary
biologist since Darwin himself, says homosexuality gives advantages
to the group by specialized talents and unusual qualities of personality. So, a society that condemns
homosexuality harms itself. So, what does professor Wilson mean
by “unusual qualities of personality”? Well, let me tell you
about our dear family friend Jenny. She is 35, single, straight. She was telling us she is looking
for a man who’s smart and funny, who’s sensitive, who’s a good listener. And she says she occasionally
meets a guy like that, but she complains, “You know,
he usually has a boyfriend already!” (Laughter) So, although people tend to obsess over
what gays do or don’t do in a bedroom, it’s really this distinctive personality
and a strong intellect that are more critical,
from evolution’s perspective. So, scientific studies do indeed show that people in the sexual minority
tend to be intelligent, particularly when it comes
to emotional intelligence. So, this study showed that boys and girls who scored
in a very bright IQ range were twice as likely
to be homosexual as adults as those children who scored
in the low to average range. And, among gay males,
on psychological testing, gay males tend to score higher
in metrics of compassion and cooperation, and lower in metrics of hostility. So, if Michelangelo had been straight, he might have just wallpapered
the Sistine Chapel. (Laughter) Songwriter Sam Austin says, “Homosexuality is God’s way of ensuring the truly gifted aren’t
burdened with children.” (Laughter) But today, in the US, about 2 out of every
25 people are in the sexual minority. Diversity is nature’s secret weapon. If all males were gay,
that would be a problem, but if all males were warriors,
we’d always be at war. The recipe for a successful human culture is a synergy of many
different ingredients. Homosexuality is like a catalyst to help emotionally connect
groups of people together. For heterosexuals, to disapprove of gays is kind of like the white flour
in bread disapproving of the yeast. So, if your genome is your hardware,
epigenetics is your software. You have many different DNA programs
downloaded on your DNA, and epigenetics chooses
from among these to determine which version of you actually is
the best fit for the environment. So, ants, you probably didn’t know it,
but are another highly social species that have epigenetic mechanisms
very similar to humans. These two are identical twin sisters, huh? Even though their DNA sequences
are exactly the same, this one, the worker, is a brainy little scurrier
who goes out looking for food, whereas the one on the right, the soldier, is obviously a brawny one
to fight off enemies. So, the queen ant
epigenetically orchestrates this by placing different epigenetic tags
on the developing ants. So – she places tags
when the colony is under attack to uncoil the DNA and light up
the genes to make the soldier, but when the colony is hungry,
she puts different tags to uncoil the DNA and epigenetically create
the conditions for the worker. So, in this way, the epigenetics – the dynamic power of epigenetics
changes our genetic expression, so that we’re born with traits
that allow us and our families the best chance to succeed
in the current conditions. So, you probably have
gay genes in your DNA, but, unless they were turned on
in your mother’s womb, they remain coiled up and silent. A recent groundbreaking
study from UCLA found that, by looking at a group of men,
some gay, some straight, and looking at epigenetic tags
in nine different sites, they could predict with 70% accuracy
their sexual orientation. So, what conditions in the uterus
turn on those gay genes? So, for a male, your chances of homosexuality
increase in proportion to the number of previous baby boys
who inhabited your mother’s uterus. So, for every older
biological brother you have, your chances of being born gay go up 33%. Long before we invented the pill, nature devised homosexuality
as a prescription for birth control. After four straight, heterosexual males,
nature says, “Enough already!,” and the mom’s immune system
switches on the epigenetic switch so a gay male is born into the family. This one will not be overburdening
the clan with yet more mouths to feed in the next generation
– sometimes more isn’t better – and he’s not going to be
killing his brother in a fight over who gets the girl. Thankfully, the sexual minority
these days have many options for having kids of their own, and I have a hunch my gay son
may bless us with grandchildren before our three straight children do. So, another gene,
this one on the X chromosome, is called a “male-loving gene,” because, when it shows up in a female, she tends to mate early
and have a lot of kids, but, when the male-loving gene
shows up in a male, it predisposes to homosexuality. So, this is another gene
that balances a family destined to have a large brood
of kids and grandkids with an occasional gay son whose natural
tendency to promote togetherness could improve the chances of survival
for the whole family. Now, I apologize. We have a lot more science about
sexual orientation in men than in women, so this talk is mostly about gay males. Though, I have no doubt that female homosexuality
is also a natural variation that is advantageous
for the family and the community. But Jimmy has no older brothers. Why is he gay? So, when Joan was pregnant with him, we discovered a large cancer
growing in her chest. Metastasis in the neck. It was a scary time. She had radiation therapy to her chest while Jimmy was still
in the third trimester. It was a rocky start for little Jimmy. Miraculously, they both survived
and are in great health today. But, in fact, severe prenatal stress
does predispose to homosexuality. In this study, 37% of gay males reported their mothers
suffered severe prenatal stress compared to only 3%
of heterosexual males’ moms. This is kind of like the queen ant, where the mom is placing
epigenetic markers on the baby to change his identity to help
the future welfare of the family. It’s as if the mom was saying,
“I’m in trouble here. I need a kind and clever ally
to help me hold this family together.” So, to summarize, if the family is flushed
with plenty of kids and/or it’s a stressful place and time, nature occasionally flips
these epigenetics switches to turn on the gay genes. This alters brain development, that changes sexual orientation
and also improves emotional intelligence. I have no doubt that Jimmy was born gay. Here’s his first birthday party. (Laughter) When he was three, he said, “Mommy,
when I grow up, I want to marry Daddy.” (Laughter) Now, some parents send their kid away,
you know, well-meaning parents, to a conversion camp
to pray away the gay. You might as well send the kid to a camp to convert his eye color
from brown to blue. Not happening! But Jimmy is like social glue
holding our family together. You know, whether his brother Evan
gets beat up in a bar fight, or his sister Caroline
gets dumped by a boyfriend, or his sister Kathleen gets busted
for plagiarizing Wikipedia – (Laughter) they know Jimmy’s made them feel like they belong to something
bigger than their problems. So, storytelling is the great
survival skill of the Irish, and, right here in Dublin, 162 years ago, one of your finest storytellers was born: Oscar Wilde. Oscar ran away to the University of Oxford where he met a young poet
named Bosie Douglas. Their long-standing
openly gay relationship infuriated and humiliated
Bosie’s father, Lord Queensburry – I’m not making this up – (Laughter) who was so mad that he eventually
had Oscar arrested for gross indecency, thrown into a dungeon
for two years of hard labor. Oscar died three years later, a young man. Oscar wrote, “Always forgive your enemies.
Nothing annoys them so much.” (Laughter) But these days, open homophobia is being
replaced by more of a subtle heterosexism where people in the sexual minority are often considered
second-class citizens. Boy George says, “There’s this illusion that homosexuals have sex
and heterosexuals fall in love. That’s completely untrue.
We all want to be loved.” I agree: among all the things in life
it’d be hardest to live without, love would come first. But indoor plumbing and toilet paper
would be pretty high up there too, right? (Laughter) I want to tell you about one more study, this one a heartbreaking,
nationwide study, from the US, that looked at US teens, and they found
that those in the sexual minority were twice as likely to be bullied, five times more likely
to have attempted suicide. Twenty-nine percent of gay teens
had tried to kill themselves. These days, around the world,
in many countries, it’s illegal to have same-sex
physical intimacy. In many countries,
it’s punishable by death. In the red countries,
it’s punishable by imprisonment. In India, the law states
14 years to life, because “homosexuality
is against the order of nature.” Except that it’s not! Nature prescribes homosexuality
at specific times and places, and endows these people
with special traits that help the people around them flourish. What is against the order of nature is the ongoing persecution
of the sexual minority. These are not confused or defective people that need to be cured,
or punished, or ostracized. They need to be accepted, for who they are, and embraced. They make us better. If you had told me 30 years ago,
as I held my baby boy, that he would grow up to be gay, I would have been devastated, but looking back, I see Mother Nature
knew what she was doing! Her clairvoyant intelligence,
forged during eons of evolution, instinctively knew my family would need
the advantages of a gay son. Now, admittedly, the science of homosexuality
is still in it’s infancy, but as his father,
what I can tell you for sure is that Jimmy is exactly
who he was meant to be, and my family is stronger and happier
because he’s in our clan. How about you? Can you set sex aside? Realize gay men and gay women
are essential to humanity? We’re like the ants. It’s in our diversity where we find
our collective strength. Thank you. (Applause) (Cheers)


  1. Meta knight
    Meta knight August 3, 2019

    I'm writing this with deep depression. The time has proved that Charles Darwin was indeed very wrong. Humans were humans but they transformed into animals by time. Believe me, time is passing very fast, the whole world will end, and when the end comes up, remember what I said.

  2. Angel Eyes33
    Angel Eyes33 August 3, 2019

    How is it about survival…I need to hear this

  3. X X
    X X August 4, 2019


  4. Muna S
    Muna S August 4, 2019

    I watched every second to find any scientific relations, it's obvious that this person knows nothing about genes, I wonder how much money he got to do this talk, whoever understand a little bit of genetics will understand what I'm saying.

  5. Lee Kidd
    Lee Kidd August 4, 2019


  6. Rachel K.
    Rachel K. August 4, 2019

    This Jimmy sounds like he would make a good friend

  7. Antoine Lee
    Antoine Lee August 4, 2019


  8. Stunnaphi
    Stunnaphi August 4, 2019

    Love whom ever u choose. It’s still
    Wrong . Good luck people

  9. Whole Food Plant Based Mama
    Whole Food Plant Based Mama August 4, 2019

    I read about this decades ago in Leonard schlains book

  10. Manasi Kamat
    Manasi Kamat August 4, 2019

    India has now accepted homosexuality

  11. george yarbrough
    george yarbrough August 4, 2019

    I like this video and I wish my own father spoke such words of acceptance. Though the way this man was choking up, the quivering lip, or the pause for words. You can tell through his expressions he didn't believe what he was saying.

  12. James Allen
    James Allen August 4, 2019

    Too many families chose their religious indoctrination over their child. They wrongly assume that homosexuality is a choice Who would ever make a choice to be rejected by your own family? For too many people, religion always prevails over logic and science.

  13. Jacqueline Larsen
    Jacqueline Larsen August 4, 2019

    Don't be proud of sin

  14. Marchant2
    Marchant2 August 5, 2019

    Incredible lecture.

  15. Noah Ritz
    Noah Ritz August 5, 2019

    Thanks for sharing – got tears in my eyes. I agree that the homosexuality science is at its infancy indeed. Neither my partner or I are the younger sons nor our moms experienced high level of stress.

  16. pobrejesus1
    pobrejesus1 August 6, 2019

    Great video. Why do audiences SCREAM these days ? I don't understand.

  17. Julio Luna
    Julio Luna August 6, 2019

    Anyone else here thinks his daughters are hot?

  18. claudia poole
    claudia poole August 7, 2019

    hmm u did fail Jimmy… with this TED Talk you failed us all

  19. PinellasWest
    PinellasWest August 7, 2019

    Stop smacking your lips when you talk.

  20. enkii82
    enkii82 August 8, 2019


  21. rip Natsuki
    rip Natsuki August 8, 2019

    in the long term everything happens for a reason boi maybe even you watching this video.
    Its only humans that aren't patient enough to see that.

  22. A Beens
    A Beens August 8, 2019

    This guy clearly has never heard of the Tossed Salad Man.

  23. Steven Doud
    Steven Doud August 9, 2019

    He’s got BDE

  24. Robert Johnson
    Robert Johnson August 9, 2019

    There are 5.9k people who gave a thumbs down on this presentation. Too bad the facts about homosexuality threatens your identity.

  25. Carolinen100
    Carolinen100 August 9, 2019

    He has very good looking kids!😍

    Luka DIMITRIJEVIĆ August 10, 2019

    this is THE BEST speech i have ever heard hands down

  27. mark frazer
    mark frazer August 10, 2019

    "nature devised homosexuality"??? That language is suggestive of intelligence guiding change.

  28. Brian Dempsey
    Brian Dempsey August 10, 2019

    I managed 40 seconds of this, up to the point where he mimed closing a door in case anyone in the audience did not know what closing a door might look like. Who wants to listen to 17 and a half minutes of this smarmy guy smacking his lips?

  29. Nivedita Sharma
    Nivedita Sharma August 11, 2019

    Its legal in India now ☺️

  30. Lou X
    Lou X August 12, 2019

    See? Humanity should be thanking me!😂😂

  31. Ben Troy
    Ben Troy August 12, 2019

    What the is metrics?

  32. Eric Dary
    Eric Dary August 12, 2019

    You make me feel better about my bisexuality, thanks!

  33. Jimmy Da Jellybean
    Jimmy Da Jellybean August 13, 2019

    I’m pan, what am I?

  34. freelandsm1
    freelandsm1 August 13, 2019

    Homosexuals are deviants that no one really cares about. Do what you want, just stop shoving it down everyone's throats.

  35. Kobus vd Merwe
    Kobus vd Merwe August 13, 2019

    This makes so much sense! Thanks..I canbrelate to that.!

  36. Marc Thibodeau
    Marc Thibodeau August 13, 2019

    Homosexualite is a fact of life. I once had a dream that all men but me were homosexuals paying me to get there girl friends who could not get it of their back. Obviously I do not have those dreams anymore, we mellow down with age. I do not see much thing wrong with homosexuality every thing but the physical part make sense. I simply do not understand it, I can see that it happen but why the physical part and not only the emotional part? In any case it is not because I do not understand something that I find it wrong. We live in a very strange world!

  37. Derek Durst
    Derek Durst August 13, 2019

    This video reads like a textbook definition of rationalization but that said, what anyone chooses to do in the privacy of their own bedrooms is their own business and I don't really care, just please don't try to justify it with "science" or throw it in our faces.

  38. cherry_skiies *
    cherry_skiies * August 13, 2019

    I agree

  39. G Todd Hildebrandt
    G Todd Hildebrandt August 14, 2019

    3 year old son told mommy he was going to grow up and marry daddy. Back of the line, kid, back of the line.

  40. Hello World
    Hello World August 15, 2019

    Everything he says is justified with the characteristics of an average woman. Intelligent but sensitive, with a helping nature. You know why? Because of estrogen. Gays have much more estrogen than an average straight male. That's why they have more "feminine" characteristics. Also If you look at their faces, they look much more feminine. not always, but a lot of gays have really round and feminine features. And this is because in their puberty or when they were born, their mom gave them a lot of estrogen naturally. Another reason can also be the amount of estrogen that exists in the food. And they put it in. For cows to produce milk all the time, they need estrogen, and then we indirectly drink that estrogen. It's probable that homosexuality comes from other places too which I don't know.

  41. Juanita Martinez
    Juanita Martinez August 16, 2019

    Christians need. They have to hear this. So they can STOP THEIR MADNNESS. 👭👬👪👫😎👍

    SWA PUTRA August 16, 2019

    Mo tau ajA

  43. Pretty Reddbone
    Pretty Reddbone August 17, 2019

    My dad died of AIDS and didn't survive. 😓😓😓

  44. Candace Casey
    Candace Casey August 17, 2019

    I have an aunt who is married to a woman. She had 3 children from a prior relationship. Her wife also has kids from a prior relationship.

  45. Candace Casey
    Candace Casey August 17, 2019

    Hmm genetically programmed altruism.


  46. Candace Casey
    Candace Casey August 17, 2019

    " if all males were warriors we would always be at war" or we would all be dead.

  47. John Rey Balladares
    John Rey Balladares August 18, 2019

    Sheyt. Gwapo kaayu iyang anak.

  48. world in maths
    world in maths August 18, 2019


  49. Obed Esquivel
    Obed Esquivel August 18, 2019

    So inspiring 😭😭😭🏳️‍🌈

    DAVID WOLF August 20, 2019

    ~ Intellectually, this is a no-brainer! Oh, how I wish the movers and shakers of this world's major "religions" would watch this objectively, and "get" the truth of it. But first, they all, males all, need to get a clue about 50+% of the population, all types of women! Two parts of the population that will save us ALL sociologically: gays and women. Fascinating and 100% true. Cheers, DAVEDJ ~

  51. A Raz
    A Raz August 20, 2019

    Beta male

  52. Shruti Naik
    Shruti Naik August 21, 2019

    It is important to note that the said law in India is from the British colonial era and not from the ancient Indian civilisation. Also, it has been abolished now.

  53. Emil Gavrailov
    Emil Gavrailov August 24, 2019

    How fascinating!!!!!

  54. bc pinay
    bc pinay August 24, 2019

    "It's in our diversity that we find our collective strength."

  55. Astra Julduz
    Astra Julduz August 24, 2019

    Интересная мысль))

  56. ◇Päragoη❦Supεrηovä◇
    ◇Päragoη❦Supεrηovä◇ August 24, 2019

    Hurray! I'm so glad I didn't kill myself

  57. Tras vctig
    Tras vctig August 25, 2019


  58. Tras vctig
    Tras vctig August 25, 2019

    I wish more people watched this video🙏🏻

  59. Simon Stiel
    Simon Stiel August 27, 2019

    Mother Nature is cruel. I hope the transhumanist movement can do something.

  60. Aang Yang
    Aang Yang August 27, 2019

    Nobody should ignore this controversial topic, you can learn a thing or two because you might have a lgbt child, so listen up!

  61. Simon Stiel
    Simon Stiel August 28, 2019

    I hope the future will involve free will.

    GISIK SIK SIG August 29, 2019

    That's so beautiful anf so much true!

  63. Nathaniel Joyce
    Nathaniel Joyce August 29, 2019

    Lol so many of his jokes just don't make sense in Ireland

  64. LetsBeClear
    LetsBeClear August 30, 2019


  65. jon fraer
    jon fraer August 31, 2019

    You failed him by not raising him according to the Bible. He must repent or else.

  66. liner2
    liner2 August 31, 2019

    I love this…. wow!

  67. Shawna Burnett
    Shawna Burnett September 1, 2019

    The way this man smacks and slaps and makes mouth sounds is seriously SOOOO annoying.

  68. nikon12x42
    nikon12x42 September 1, 2019

    homosexuality is legally promoted through media education agricultuire phramraceutical and every other industry .
    homosexuality is detrimental to health

  69. Rafael Lopes
    Rafael Lopes September 4, 2019

    This talk is an art, so beautiful.

  70. Devilry GuiBR
    Devilry GuiBR September 5, 2019

    So, imagine the 1000° son of Genghis Khan

  71. Christine A
    Christine A September 5, 2019

    God this man smacks so muchhhhh and it’s ruining it

  72. 奧格戴
    奧格戴 September 7, 2019

    May I ask you for all the paper references of your speech mentioned ,please?

  73. Is me ?
    Is me ? September 9, 2019

    On the light of homosexuals not being able to have children. One thing.


    How do we forget about it.

  74. Naveen Chandar
    Naveen Chandar September 10, 2019

    Very good thought provoking speech

  75. Giorno Giovanna
    Giorno Giovanna September 10, 2019

    this is just perfect

  76. LeiaAnimates
    LeiaAnimates September 12, 2019

    This is pretty much the same theory my dad had about homosexuality! Very interesting to listen to. I'll try to translate this to my dad, I'm sure he'll love it lol

  77. Alan Bernegger
    Alan Bernegger September 12, 2019

    My only question, without considering the personal closeness to this issue is why is a cardiologist giving a lecture on genomics?

  78. Ray F
    Ray F September 13, 2019

    Natural variation? It’s social pressure. You’re twisting science to justify your sons lifestyle. We’re not “ants”.

  79. yasin erfaniphour
    yasin erfaniphour September 14, 2019

    gays are just a bug in the whole system

  80. The 135 Joker
    The 135 Joker September 15, 2019

    The evidence used to back up seems a bit flaky and the statistic of 70% predictability based on DNA isnt really that impressive when you realise that just guessing straight every time gives you 90+% predictability

  81. Roach Guts
    Roach Guts September 16, 2019

    I’d say its a win-win, if there were more lgbt+ people in the world (people who dont/cant reproduce) then there would be more open minds and the decrese in overpopulation. In other words, ADOPT. (unless you do not wish for a child)

  82. Alyssa the awkward skat
    Alyssa the awkward skat September 17, 2019

    What about Bi and Pan?

  83. Saroj Kumari
    Saroj Kumari September 17, 2019

    You are amazing ❣️

  84. Melanie Molifie
    Melanie Molifie September 17, 2019

    "… the truly gifted aren't burdened with children." I'm infertile, so this makes me feel a tad bit better.

  85. José Antonio Bucio Treviño
    José Antonio Bucio Treviño September 18, 2019

    can you add spanish subtitles please?

  86. Joska Batinica
    Joska Batinica September 19, 2019

    Thank you for this speech. I could have listen to you for hours.

  87. Taebooteh on dat Gucci belt
    Taebooteh on dat Gucci belt September 21, 2019

    This is so beautiful

  88. webbess1
    webbess1 September 25, 2019

    When I saw Pete Buttigieg's CNN Town Hall in March of this year, I immediately thought of this TEDTalk. He has that healing, emotional intelligence that this traumatized nation needs.

  89. Johnson Yuen
    Johnson Yuen September 30, 2019

    yes, a lot of grievances but who care?!

  90. Tong Tong
    Tong Tong October 3, 2019

    this video was in my recommended and after james in the title it got off
    smh I thought it was going to be james charles lmao

  91. Rele Cyrus
    Rele Cyrus October 4, 2019

    October 4th 2019, Uzbekistan homosexuality is still a crime. When will hatred stop

  92. Alessandro Brugaletta
    Alessandro Brugaletta October 4, 2019

    Anyway, siblings don't share 50% of DNA. They may share 100% or 0%, it's only about statistics

  93. Angelina von Abendorff
    Angelina von Abendorff October 5, 2019

    Just helping the boys out

  94. Purple Wizard
    Purple Wizard October 6, 2019


  95. Nadia
    Nadia October 6, 2019

    homosexuality isn’t punishable by imprisonment in cyprus!!

  96. Jayden Larti
    Jayden Larti October 6, 2019

    L I P S M A C K I N G

  97. speed bump
    speed bump October 6, 2019

    does this mean I'm special?

  98. harshal agrawal
    harshal agrawal October 6, 2019

    He tries to connect survival of the fittest theory to the existence of gays in today's world. I have pondered on the very question myself. But his talk doesn't seem that satisfactory to me. I hope someone else would be able to find the real connection b/w "survival of the fittest" and "existence of gays".

  99. wee calum
    wee calum October 7, 2019

    Homosexuality hasn't been a crime in Scotland since 1980

  100. Chilly Fantasy
    Chilly Fantasy October 7, 2019

    I wish they would show this to kids in school

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